fair ba to?

[anonymouss]

last nyt ung frend ko na banned d2 s card room nato fellow PM member dn sya na witnes ku kng panu sya na ban eto mimsu mga narinig ko
1.nung nag champion sya sa 20k frirol  nde daw sya nag cash game after pero lage ku sya na kikita nag cash game dun kataon lng nung araw na yon nde sya nag cash game
2.mahelig sya talaga hit en run mag triple up lng sya out tayo agad talaga dami raw rereklamu players sbi ng frend ku kaya daw sya lage hit en run ksi kaya daw sya naglalaro para manalo lng

Bawal batong mga ginagawa nya fair lang b ma ban sya d2 sa pokeran nato dahel sa mga to?

[hazmoore]

be fair DIN
saang CARD ROOM
pra malaman ng mga kaPM

[welcoat]

Siyempre not fair, but since it is private property the room can ban any one even if it is only the person's smell that is distasteful.  There are many other rooms welcoming players and not choosy on playing style. 

[JiggerYPoker]

be fair DIN
saang CARD ROOM
pra malaman ng mga kaPM

i'm assuming south east asia international poker club, since it's in their section of the forum. kung saan yon, di ko alam.

[ghidora_75]

be fair DIN
saang CARD ROOM
pra malaman ng mga kaPM

i'm assuming south east asia international poker club, since it's in their section of the forum. kung saan yon, di ko alam.

Ha ha oo nga, nag-blind item ka pa don sa poker room, nilagay mo naman sa sub-heading ng South East Asia International Poker Club.

Jigger malapit 'to sa SM Sucat, along Sucat 'to.  Haven't been into it, medyo parang cheesy yong facade, mukhang movie house sa Quiapo yong harap. he he he  Well, dapat nag-pick up na activity dito with the closure of Pocket Aces.

Anyway, sabihin mo don sa friend mo na mahilig sa hit and run tactics, mag-online poker na lang sya, accepted don ang hit and run, kasi hindi ka naman nila nakikita and sa dami ng naglalaro, ma-iignore pa yon.  Isa yon sa na-discuss ni Eric Lindgren na ginagawa ng mga short stack players online.  Pagka-double up takbo.

Sa live, matatandaan ka talaga.

[Maverick]

If this is true, then htey should be reported to pagcor.

you cannot ban anyone based on how they play, unless they are cheating.

With the closure of pocket aces, this place should, well, follow soon if they keep this up.

[penmanila]

maverick's right. there's something patently unfair about being banned for taking the money and running. after all, the house never complains when they take your money and then you run. besides, those wins were legitimately posted. it's not like you had a card-counting system, as in blackjack, to beat the odds.

and what's wrong with playing "para manalo lang"? isn't that what we keep returning to the tables for?

[11Finger]

maverick's right. there's something patently unfair about being banned for taking the money and running. after all, the house never complains when they take your money and then you run. besides, those wins were legitimately posted. it's not like you had a card-counting system, as in blackjack, to beat the odds.

and what's wrong with playing "para manalo lang"? isn't that what we keep returning to the tables for?

+1

[JiggerYPoker]

i don't object to the hit and run tactics. pero yan ang problem kung maliit lang yung room and konti lang ang naglalaro. maaalala ng ibang players yon gumagawa nito and won't like to play with them. tapos puedeng maging short handed na yung table, so na hit and run ka na , baka ma break up pa yung table.

sa metro ka na lang. masyadong maraming players for it to matter if you leave tables quickly.

[anonymouss]

try nyo nlang iwasan play d2..daming colusion,chek al d way tourney,rabit sa tourney,panget tourney structure di na kme babalik dito!

[RedAirkson]

be fair DIN
saang CARD ROOM
pra malaman ng mga kaPM

i'm assuming south east asia international poker club, since it's in their section of the forum. kung saan yon, di ko alam.

^^^ i loled.


back to topic, IMHO it's not a question of fair or unfair.  i mirror welcoat's sentiments that a private establishment can ban whoever the hell they want.  i have heard many stories of people being banned from many card rooms based on the whim of the card room operator - that is their prerogative, based on how they want to protect their business, their clients, their image, etc...  kahit sa metro maraming kwento about banned ex-house players and banned hit and run artists ...lalo na sa bigger tables (konti na lang nga kayo tatakbuhan mo pa yung mesa).  i think if the card room operator feels you are not good for the game, they can do what they have to do to keep their games attractive to the "more important" customers.

just tell your friend to brush up on poker etiquette na lang - he can look for a copy of "Ace on the River" by Barry Greenstein or Phil Gordon's "Lil Black Book" for starters...

to keep coming back, you have to be a good customer, not just a good consumer.

[Maverick]

i guess it is a problem if, when you stand up, the table breaks, coz it the only fricking table running.

it's 3pm here at Metro and there are about 12-13 tables running alongside a 5 table tournament. hit and run all you want and no one will care. youll get teased a lot, but that's about it. hehe.

Yes a card room has the right to ban ANYONE for any particular reason they seem fit. But at least have some kind of legitimate reason. Metro has banned people from suspicion of coolusion, chip dumping, chip STEALING, and from being employees of other card rooms. Other than safety and integrity reasons, the rest are business decisions made through careful consideration.

[Ross]

Naisip ko lang, if I was the operator, I would probably ban the person if through his actions, other people are less inclined to play. Parang kung dahil sa pag hit and run niya, mawawalan ng gana yung ibang tao, edi isang tao na lang ang i-ban ko kesa mabawasan ako ng 2 or more customers.

Di nga bawal yung ginagawa niya pero bordering on bastos. Ako, naiinis din ako sa ganun, nasanay na lang kaya di ko na pinapansin. Pero iba talaga yung pakiramdam kapag ikaw yung nakuhanan tapos pagkatulak sa kanya ng pot, di man lang nasastack ng mabuti, nakatayo na siya to leave.

[welcoat]

Naisip ko lang, if I was the operator, I would probably ban the person if through his actions, other people are less inclined to play. Parang kung dahil sa pag hit and run niya, mawawalan ng gana yung ibang tao, edi isang tao na lang ang i-ban ko kesa mabawasan ako ng 2 or more customers.

Di nga bawal yung ginagawa niya pero bordering on bastos. Ako, naiinis din ako sa ganun, nasanay na lang kaya di ko na pinapansin. Pero iba talaga yung pakiramdam kapag ikaw yung nakuhanan tapos pagkatulak sa kanya ng pot, di man lang nasastack ng mabuti, nakatayo na siya to leave.

Ok, see how they run....
my advice do it with finesse so Ross won't get mad. Don't be too obvious naman, even when all know what you are trying to do! If anyone dares to ask or comment the obvious, just reply the obvious..."i'm cashing out and not giving you a chance to get it back" as one of my buddy does.

[hazmoore]

Naisip ko lang, if I was the operator, I would probably ban the person if through his actions, other people are less inclined to play. Parang kung dahil sa pag hit and run niya, mawawalan ng gana yung ibang tao, edi isang tao na lang ang i-ban ko kesa mabawasan ako ng 2 or more customers.

Di nga bawal yung ginagawa niya pero bordering on bastos. Ako, naiinis din ako sa ganun, nasanay na lang kaya di ko na pinapansin. Pero iba talaga yung pakiramdam kapag ikaw yung nakuhanan tapos pagkatulak sa kanya ng pot, di man lang nasastack ng mabuti, nakatayo na siya to leave.

Ok, see how they run....
my advice do it with finesse so Ross won't get mad. Don't be too obvious naman, even when all know what you are trying to do! If anyone dares to ask or comment the obvious, just reply the obvious..."i'm cashing out and not giving you a chance to get it back" as one of my buddy does.

that i believe is quite FAIR

[RedAirkson]

i guess it is a problem if, when you stand up, the table breaks, coz it the only fricking table running.

^^^ i love this!  (takes mad balls to hit and run in this kind of room.)

[rookdens]

kaya nga tinawag na "SIT and GO" - dapat pala "SIT and STAY" ----- lol

[penmanila]

or in my case, SIT & GO BROKE, ha ha

kaya nga tinawag na "SIT and GO" - dapat pala "SIT and STAY" ----- lol

[celtaph]

There are other poker rooms to go to.... but I think that's really discrimination.  I really don't think people should be banned based on the personal whim of management. 

[welcoat]

There are other poker rooms to go to.... but I think that's really discrimination.  I really don't think people should be banned based on the personal whim of management. 

that's nice to hear, when do i get invited to your room?