kitty Kat Korner

[garfy]

bwahahaha mangugulo naman dito ang pusa.

i have always been an advocate of change. naniniwala ako na there so many things you can do to market a poker house.
i have never believe in "let make a big tournament and pray people play cashgame"

problema old dinosaurs will always be old dinosaurs.
"ganito ginawa namin sa kung anong ek ek na poker house kaya lumakas sila" funny that most of them close down.

so i created myself a corner to post my insanity. giving ideas and suggestions that is more cost effective. and im sharing it to people.

the main idea i created was simple enough
note ha suggestion lang tong event na to
"gunning for the guineas world book of record"

Phil "The Unabomber" Laak Guinness Record for the longest ever poker session without sleep is 115 hour.

why not make an event out of it?
a marathon for the longest in the phils

its is a good promotion because it a cash game base event.
if naubusan sila ng pera problema nila yun

im not saying break the record. just make an event and the longest one wins a x amount of money.
gawin mo tier like
50 hours - x amount will be awarded.
100 hours - x amount will be awarded.

there can only be one. naks.

people register at the counter of a poker house. house allocated a space and only people that register can join. the only remaining players wins.

if in the event someone does break the record. hell both the player and the poker house gets to be in the guineas book of record!

double win. international coverage. bonga diba!

okey side note para sa maliit na poker house

small poker house can also do this event. allocate a certain day instead of making a tournament. same rules applies. last player win x amount.


i believe that marketing has change the past few years. i have always been an advocate of change.

okey i wanna go to sleep

nn.

[polnkel]

bwahahaha mangugulo naman dito ang pusa.

i have always been an advocate of change. naniniwala ako na there so many things you can do to market a poker house.
i have never believe in "let make a big tournament and pray people play cashgame"

problema old dinosaurs will always be old dinosaurs.
"ganito ginawa namin sa kung anong ek ek na poker house kaya lumakas sila" funny that most of them close down.

so i created myself a corner to post my insanity. giving ideas and suggestions that is more cost effective. and im sharing it to people.

the main idea i created was simple enough
note ha suggestion lang tong event na to
"gunning for the guineas world book of record"

Phil "The Unabomber" Laak Guinness Record for the longest ever poker session without sleep is 115 hour.

why not make an event out of it?
a marathon for the longest in the phils

its is a good promotion because it a cash game base event.
if naubusan sila ng pera problema nila yun

im not saying break the record. just make an event and the longest one wins a x amount of money.
gawin mo tier like
50 hours - x amount will be awarded.
100 hours - x amount will be awarded.

there can only be one. naks.

people register at the counter of a poker house. house allocated a space and only people that register can join. the only remaining players wins.

if in the event someone does break the record. hell both the player and the poker house gets to be in the guineas book of record!

double win. international coverage. bonga diba!

okey side note para sa maliit na poker house

small poker house can also do this event. allocate a certain day instead of making a tournament. same rules applies. last player win x amount.


i believe that marketing has change the past few years. i have always been an advocate of change.

okey i wanna go to sleep

nn.

-   hmmm....   mukhang insomiac itong taong ito.....

poker till you drop???

since experimental itong proposal mo....  parang guinea pig ba ang mga participants???  hence guineas book of record

then pag sikat na ang format na iyan... ipapasok na natin sa Guinness Book of World Records???

pasensya na po... medyo masama lang gising ko... ngek...wpp...

[wewet888]

Pol bad dream ba?

[jordan113]

kakambal.... bkt d b naka2log ng mahusay?

napanagipan  mo ba cya?

relax ka lng.....

[pokereagle]

18 August 2011

Hindi wewet... hindi po bad dream yan... Iyan po ang epekto ng chinese ghost month... poker players tend to go INSANE....

Ngek! at wpp insane guinea pig... 

[11Finger]

I remember suggesting this to Mang Jess before... naka 3 days straight kasi sya sa metro dati (yes no ligo)

[garfy]

marami naman actually nagmamarathon na eh.

ive met a few guys who actually did 3 days no sleep din.

all im saying is make an event out of it and you can attract these people kinda rewarding them for it.

house will not loose money because shempre cash game yan eh. simply setting aside an amount will suffice

milestone.

di ba pag final table the more people bust out. tumataas value mo. baligtadin mo naman yung formula.
let say on the 25 hour. x amount. 50 hour x amount. 75 hour x amount.

but there can only be 1 winner. since only 1 winner. then the house wins.
last man standing.

i think small poker houses will benefit more on this type of promotions.

[11Finger]

rumor: baka raw me gumawa nito

[panulay]

@garfy you should get paid for your ideas bro!

[garfy]

rumor: baka raw me gumawa nito

wouldnt be surprise. because as long as you set the parameters. walang lugi ang house. kasi example lang

if you set the minimum at 30 hours and x amount every hour after that. then the house is sure to earn.

the set up was cash game and the rake will be continues.

it promotes cash game indirectly. and if ever na beat ang 115 hour record. both the poker house and the poker players gains international recognition. and to be honest. its now a race of time. whoever will set this up first have the bragging right "we started it first" gaya gaya na lang iba.

@garfy you should get paid for your ideas bro!

lol i wish that was the case.

1. i actually told someone from the marketing of metro during the pm metro tour about this idea. i actually gave metro the chance to get it first. and a friend of nick was suppose to bring it nick directly of this idea.

i told marketing person that since its my idea and im not bound to anybody. i will openly share this idea to other people. which i did.

sadly that person could have given me 1 san mig light and i would have been happy and would have not shared the idea to other people.

okey lang daw kung ishare ko eh. kaya shinare ko lol

2. well i do have other ideas pa. even if i post everything i have in my head right now.

give me a week and i would probably have other ideas. and most of my ideas have the protection of the house in mind. not "make big tour and pray people play cash game type" for small poker houses i am actually against making big tournaments.

as i said im an advocate of change. pero i always end up talking to dinosaurs and the wrong people.

imagine ha. i offered my service to this poker house in sta cruz who is not doing so well right now.

look at my offer
1. i get paid 5k per day and ill work from start of there poker house until the end. (luge na ako niyan kasi double shift yan). as hp ha! i forgot to place ill be an hp
2. that i will guarantee 3 tables per day of cash game and they will have a daily 10k tour only. if i can not make 3 cash game table that run for minimum of 5 hours. ill have to pay the overlay of the tournament.

di nila tinangap.

i have bad luck finding the right people.

and if you think im lying that they did not accept the offer. go ahead and go there and ask if i shared them good ideas. they would probably tell you wala akong alam and they know better. sheshhhh

[panulay]

i like how you think bro but i think its not about finding the right people but finding the right opportunity.

[PepeSmith]

Paano kung maubusan ng tao playing lalo na late at night and morning especially with the small poker houses.
Let's say konti lang ang nag try gawin ang promo at wala na makalaro...

[JiggerYPoker]

as i said im an advocate of change. pero i always end up talking to dinosaurs and the wrong people.

imagine ha. i offered my service to this poker house in sta cruz who is not doing so well right now.

look at my offer
1. i get paid 5k per day and ill work from start of there poker house until the end. (luge na ako niyan kasi double shift yan). as hp ha! i forgot to place ill be an hp
2. that i will guarantee 3 tables per day of cash game and they will have a daily 10k tour only. if i can not make 3 cash game table that run for minimum of 5 hours. ill have to pay the overlay of the tournament.

di nila tinangap.

i have bad luck finding the right people.

and if you think im lying that they did not accept the offer. go ahead and go there and ask if i shared them good ideas. they would probably tell you wala akong alam and they know better. sheshhhh

WTF.almost  wala ng talo yung poker room niyan ayaw pa nila. labo. almost wala na nga silang tables running.

[toybits]

how can you guarantee the 3 tables sir? meron kayo players?

suggestion ko may medic on hand kung tuloy nila yung marathon promo na yan  mangyayari probably heads up na kasi ayaw na maglaro nung ibang tao with them, tapos ang laban hindi sa cards but against each other's antok.. 

[sharkbait]

we've all read news bout gamers dying after 50 or so hours of continuous online gaming. not sure how dangerous it would be health wise playing poker for more than 115 hours.

if a player passes out or in the worst case scenario.. kicks the bucket while playing in the event then it would do more harm than good marketing wise imho

[garfy]

I actually find it funny that i am giving the answer to this question. but it shows an interest to it

Paano kung maubusan ng tao playing lalo na late at night and morning especially with the small poker houses.
Let's say konti lang ang nag try gawin ang promo at wala na makalaro...

 e di panalo agad isang tao. small poker house can of course promote this rewarding only small rewards compared to bigger poker house.

example a small poker house can set that dapat 8 pm registered na yung tao and 5k after only reaching the 10th hour. if gagawa sila ng tournament eh ang laki na ng overlay nila sa tour. this is a better alternative.

for 5k dalawa na lang kayo magpapatigasan pa kayo ng ulo?

WTF.almost  wala ng talo yung poker room niyan ayaw pa nila. labo. almost wala na nga silang tables running.

aba mas bilib kayo sa ginawa nila. isang chinese regular duon nagdala ng isang tao naglalaro ng 20-40. ginawa nilang hp dahil nakapagdala ng isang tao. galing nila no?

how can you guarantee the 3 tables sir? meron kayo players?

if you are looking from the house point of view. wala silang problema kasi of course if ever hindi makabuo ng table for cashgame wala silang lugi. i will pay the overlay nagkaroon pa sila ng tour.

if you are asking me how can i guarantee it. palagay mo ba im a "make tournament and pray people play cashgame" type of guy? of course i have other cards im hiding.

suggestion ko may medic on hand kung tuloy nila yung marathon promo na yan  mangyayari probably heads up na kasi ayaw na maglaro nung ibang tao with them, tapos ang laban hindi sa cards but against each other's antok..

we've all read news bout gamers dying after 50 or so hours of continuous online gaming. not sure how dangerous it would be health wise playing poker for more than 115 hours.

if a player passes out or in the worst case scenario.. kicks the bucket while playing in the event then it would do more harm than good marketing wise imho

actually let me answer that question
1. the so called gamer that pass out is one out of a lot of stupid attempts in the world. out of 100k attempting it. 1 died? when Phil laak attempted it. the casino that sponsored it already knew the danger. but again it was voluntary. you can quit anytime. sus naman may mga player nga na inatake sa puso while playing poker. kasalanan pa din ng house?
2. its not as easy as you think especially when we are talking about poker. and this is cash game. you have to be mentally alert to maintain playing for long hours. kung hindi isda labas mo nyan. pag naubusan ka ng chips. your out!
3. the house can always reserve the right to declare the player unfit to continue playing.

[welcoat]

This is all just brainstorming, who knows a poker room might improve on the idea and be more successful.
I still believe a good marketer should be able to expand the existing poker playing population rather than just trying to get bigger slice of small pie.

[garfy]

yup that is true.

that why this idea can make a difference.

gunning for the whole record is still something news worthy

lol what im doing is really dangerous to big poker houses. i may not be able to build one but i am opening the eyes of other people. someday some of the things i share will be use by smaller poker houses so they can now compete with bigger poker houses.

we need a revolution! nyahahaha

[11Finger]

Dapat ata gawin nating HP si Garfy dito sa PM, dami rin kasi response pag sya nag post (controversial) meow... 

[garfy]

binebenta ko pa din yung arvyt tissue. any one want to make a reservation

[garfy]

weeeeeee

anyway i just thought about this idea. i have a better system than this one. however since i have a system better than this. i might as well post this one since wala ng kwenta tong idea na to.

for those small poker houses. this is an enhancement only. you can use this if there is a pot war.

i call it the "kitty blessing"

obvious naman why i called it kitty blessing.

the mechanic is simple sa mga poker house owner na interested gamitin.

1. when a tournament hits more than 40 participants. kitty blessing will be held.
2. kitty blessing is a sit and go tournament.
3. the house will raffle 10 players that joined the tournament only pag naayos na final table. those 10 players will play in a sit and go tournament. if wala sila sa poker room nung time na niraffle. out sila at raffle ulit
- because final table players will not be included.
- para mapilitan silang mag antay at di agad umalis pag natapos ang tournament.

4. there is only 1 winner. the sit and go winner gets times 3 of the buy in.

this is an enhancement of a tournament. giving a chance for a player to get his buy-in back.

sa house favored to because it actually supports your tournament. it gives people an added incentive to play your tournament even if the prize pot is smaller.

since my minimum players na kailangan. if hindi umabot sa minimum eh no kitty blessing.

kasi mas malaki nga sa kabila eh pag na out ka eh out ka. with such a system they have a chance to get back there buy in times 3. it actually makes your tournament better without directly competing with bigger pots.
(the reason times 3 kasi if chinop nila sa top 3 e di okey lang).

okey time for kitty to go to sleep

nn

[garfy]

okey

just a few more notes. as i said since i actually have a better promotion than this. kaya pinopost ko to openly.

at first kasi nung ginawa ko yan kasi it was made to answer one specific problem
"pagtapos magtournament ng tao eh umaalis agad" hence that promotion was made to make them stick around.

however if you want to make it more usefull.

you can always add

"raffle will be held one the tournament reach final table. only players playing cash game will be included in the raffle"

i do not suggest this tho. if i will implement this. i would make it 5 players who are playing cash game and 5 players who are not.

anyway time for me to take a nap

[JiggerYPoker]

pero ano ang consuelo ng players in a cash game vs those who aren't? kasi pareho lang ang chances nila to get a seat.

[garfy]

mew mew mew

actually when i created that strategy. i am using the data of malate market. sa malate kasi the market for tournament is usually 4-5 tables will play the tournament. 1-2 tables ang cash game.

so around 50 players 10-15 players.

so non cash game players will be around 35.

so if you look at the table correctly. 5 out of 15 versus 5 out of 35. mas malakas chance mo makapasok sa 15. (of course we can change the formula. like for every table 2 players will be allocated).

of course the players sometimes can change the whole thing. as i said this is a suggestion of a promotion. but sad to say i would not even use this one. i have a better formula than this one. using this with my other one would be overkill. hence i am sharing this one.

but a few notes lang.
1. the location can affect the whole promotion. you might have a good promotion but the market may not like it. like example ortigas and manila market are way different.
2. sometimes the idea might be good. pero the implementation is hard.
3. implementation mahirap na nga. spreading the word for people to try it is another issue.

nakalimutan ko na yung susunod kong itatype. ill remmember it later.

[garfy]

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